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Director, OpenShift Strategy at Red Hat. Founder of Rishidot Research, a research community focused on services world. His focus is on Platform Services, Infrastructure and the role of Open Source in the services era. Krish has been writing @ CloudAve from its inception and had also been part of GigaOm Pro Analyst Group. The opinions expressed here are his own and are neither representative of his employer, Red Hat, nor CloudAve, nor its sponsors.

5 responses to “IBM LotusLive Symphony: Google Needs To Watch Out”

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  2. Vladimir Dzhuvinov

    It’s always good to have competition in the office suites. I occasionally make use of the desktop Symphony, it is essentially an OpenOffice core but with a modified UI (I like the side menu a lot). I suppose with the web version they’re using the same approach, but with a web UI appended.

  3. IBM LotusLive Symphony: Google Needs To Watch Out « Digital Naiv – Stefan63's Blog

    […] Test LotusLive Symphony on Greenhouse or on LotusLive Labs! IBM’s foray into this space is interesting because there is not much to monetize here. However, office suite is a critical piece for the very success of their Social Business vision. I would say the success of LotusLive Symphony is tied to how well they execute their Social Business strategy. It is also very important that Google takes note of IBM’s foray into this space and reposition themselves to meet the competition. I know that many pundits write off IBM in today’s world. I was also an IBM skeptic but my interactions with many IBM-ers during Lotusphere convinced me that they have their vision right and what is needed right now is proper execution. I did this analysis with the expectation that they will follow up on their execution this time. Let us wait and see. via cloudave.com […]

  4. Bob Timmins

    @Krishnan, I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. “Google need to watch out” ? LOL… They would have looked at it for about an hour on their lunch break, completed the assessment and not have to look back. Case closed. Google know that Symphony and Lotus Live present NO threat whatsoever.

    Firstly, my contacts from within IBM have said that virtually 0 companies have taken up LotusLive (LL). In fact many of the “wins” are “gifted” which means IBM have given it away for free to make it look good in the press releases. So, IBM are winning “Charlie Sheen” style with LL.

    Their income from LotusLive will be resoundingly negative and I expect it to remain so for some time. I would expect within 18 months IBM will change the LotusLive arrangements to minimise the losses, it’ll be re-branded/renamed and/or the conditions of use/features will be tightened to reduce operational costs to IBM.

    Now Lotus Symphony has virtually 0 corporate traction in the last few years. Lots of individual downloads, and the occasional small business will get into it, but you’re not going to get a large organisation taking it on which is what you need for this stuff to work. Also, the product suffers from a few architectural problems. IBM branched the code from Open Office around 2007. This clumsy act automatically crippled Symphony from leveraging any feature enhancements from Open Office since then. So IBM are stuck with code from 2006/2007 and have to build everything from there. A smarter move would be to integrate and allow specific installs of Open Office to work with Symphony.

    Combining these 2 together (Symphony and LL) will make near zero impact on the market. All because you have combined 2 market losing platforms together does not automatically translate their fate into a “Google Need to watch out”.. IBM’s foray into these areas is merely to prevent MS and Google from making income. I can’t see how it’s intended to actually generate revenue for IBM.

    Free services do not add intrinsic value to business. Google’s business model relies advertising for it’s bread and butter. Whilst IBM relies on it’s patents and licensing. Giving stuff out for free means IBM will have to fold first. Whilst Google keeps making money in the same space.

    I can hear Eric Schmidt, Larry Page and Sergey Brin laughing their fat rich a$$es off while reading your article.