Comments on: When Startups Grow, They Also Grow Out Of The Cloud http://www.cloudave.com/126/when-startups-grow-they-also-grow-out-of-the-cloud/ Software in Business. The Business of Software. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:09:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Krishnan Subramanian http://www.cloudave.com/126/when-startups-grow-they-also-grow-out-of-the-cloud/#comment-5377 Krishnan Subramanian Wed, 06 Oct 2010 22:53:07 +0000 http://www.cloudave.com/link/when-startups-grow-they-also-grow-out-of-the-cloud#comment-5377 I think you missed my point in the post. I never said that growing out of cloud is a trend to stay. I pointed out to this trend (not just twitter but many other startups I have spoken to) so that public cloud providers can do what is needed to change this trend in the coming years. I am in the "public cloud is the future" school from day 1. I think you missed my point in the post. I never said that growing out of cloud is a trend to stay. I pointed out to this trend (not just twitter but many other startups I have spoken to) so that public cloud providers can do what is needed to change this trend in the coming years. I am in the “public cloud is the future” school from day 1.

]]> By: Vish http://www.cloudave.com/126/when-startups-grow-they-also-grow-out-of-the-cloud/#comment-5372 Vish Wed, 06 Oct 2010 21:24:46 +0000 http://www.cloudave.com/link/when-startups-grow-they-also-grow-out-of-the-cloud#comment-5372 You can't compare Twitter to every other business in the world. Also you are looking at the utilization of the Cloud in a wholly inverted way, IMHO, because you are asking a temporal question ("do they grow out.."). What makes better sense to ask in my opinion is "Will they.. 10 years from now? The public Cloud today is like the public electricity distribution system in its early days. The super critical orgs (defence establishments, communication hubs etc) got a public electricity connection but mainly relied on their dedicated generators (which are the equivalent of the datacenters). The rest of the orgs simply got the public connections because they couldn't afford dedicated generators and/or the staff to maintain them. Over time the dedicated generators' footprint grew progressive smaller and they got deployed increasingly less frequently. The generators didn't die, they just became minor players for everyone, except for a very small minority of super critical orgs. The practice continues to this day, even in America where public electricity distribution to a home/business doesn't get interrupted for more than 5-10 minutes cumulative in a typical year. Eventually the Cloud will serve that same purpose and the private datacenter will shrink but not go away completely. Giant orgs like Twitter will keep them but eventually to the same degree that they will keep their own electricity generators. If we wish to plan and advice clients for the future, prevalent practice in this year will not be a good indicator to learn from. You can’t compare Twitter to every other business in the world.
Also you are looking at the utilization of the Cloud in a wholly inverted way, IMHO, because you are asking a temporal question (“do they grow out..”). What makes better sense to ask in my opinion is “Will they.. 10 years from now?

The public Cloud today is like the public electricity distribution system in its early days. The super critical orgs (defence establishments, communication hubs etc) got a public electricity connection but mainly relied on their dedicated generators (which are the equivalent of the datacenters). The rest of the orgs simply got the public connections because they couldn’t afford dedicated generators and/or the staff to maintain them. Over time the dedicated generators’ footprint grew progressive smaller and they got deployed increasingly less frequently. The generators didn’t die, they just became minor players for everyone, except for a very small minority of super critical orgs.

The practice continues to this day, even in America where public electricity distribution to a home/business doesn’t get interrupted for more than 5-10 minutes cumulative in a typical year.

Eventually the Cloud will serve that same purpose and the private datacenter will shrink but not go away completely. Giant orgs like Twitter will keep them but eventually to the same degree that they will keep their own electricity generators. If we wish to plan and advice clients for the future, prevalent practice in this year will not be a good indicator to learn from.

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