Comments on: Nibbling Around the Edges – KashGuard for KashFlow http://www.cloudave.com/1731/nibbling-around-the-edges-kashguard-for-kashflow/ Software in Business. The Business of Software. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:09:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: stuartm http://www.cloudave.com/1731/nibbling-around-the-edges-kashguard-for-kashflow/#comment-2190 stuartm Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:05:12 +0000 http://www.cloudave.com/link/nibbling-around-the-edges-kashguard-for-kashflow#comment-2190 Don't confuse authentication and authorisation! Compare this to online banking. Many online retail banks allow multiple users (joint account holders) to log on to the same account - but offer no control beyond that. Business banking and corporate banking systems typically offers a more granular authorisation model. I'm sure Duane has done his market research and his users, perhaps typically smaller enterprises, do not require this. Although we have fine grain control in Fusion Accounts, we typically find that it is only larger businesses with multiple users doing Sales Order and Purchase Order processing who really take advantage of it. Don’t confuse authentication and authorisation!

Compare this to online banking.

Many online retail banks allow multiple users (joint account holders) to log on to the same account – but offer no control beyond that. Business banking and corporate banking systems typically offers a more granular authorisation model.

I’m sure Duane has done his market research and his users, perhaps typically smaller enterprises, do not require this.

Although we have fine grain control in Fusion Accounts, we typically find that it is only larger businesses with multiple users doing Sales Order and Purchase Order processing who really take advantage of it.

]]> By: SaaS Certainty – Escrow is the Answer | CloudAve http://www.cloudave.com/1731/nibbling-around-the-edges-kashguard-for-kashflow/#comment-2189 SaaS Certainty – Escrow is the Answer | CloudAve Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:04:07 +0000 http://www.cloudave.com/link/nibbling-around-the-edges-kashguard-for-kashflow#comment-2189 [..] While not overly exciting, SaaS escrow services are becoming ever more important. Recently Ipostedabout a new third party application providing granular user permissioning for a particular SaaS accounting application. My post caused something of a storm, the net result of which was users and influencers of SaaS accounting software balking at the fear of data loss and lack of security for the core application. [..] [..] While not overly exciting, SaaS escrow services are becoming ever more important. Recently Ipostedabout a new third party application providing granular user permissioning for a particular SaaS accounting application. My post caused something of a storm, the net result of which was users and influencers of SaaS accounting software balking at the fear of data loss and lack of security for the core application. [..]

]]> By: Ben Kepes http://www.cloudave.com/1731/nibbling-around-the-edges-kashguard-for-kashflow/#comment-2188 Ben Kepes Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:58:18 +0000 http://www.cloudave.com/link/nibbling-around-the-edges-kashguard-for-kashflow#comment-2188 Thanks Martin - while there's no need for me to reply as you mentioned, I always like to reach out and thank people for their support. Stay in touch! Thanks Martin – while there’s no need for me to reply as you mentioned, I always like to reach out and thank people for their support. Stay in touch!

]]> By: Martin Blackwell http://www.cloudave.com/1731/nibbling-around-the-edges-kashguard-for-kashflow/#comment-2187 Martin Blackwell Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:24:45 +0000 http://www.cloudave.com/link/nibbling-around-the-edges-kashguard-for-kashflow#comment-2187 Just lost an hour of my life reading the Kashflow/KashGuard thread from Accman. As usual, people with too little to do and too much to say. My sympathies for the abuse you had to take. FWIW, I chose to join the Kashflow partner program and, yes, I put multi-user permission access at my top need, coming from a 30 year IT career in multi-user commercial systems. Since I own and control my customer's access which I sub-let, I set the passwords (auto-generated complex strings) and can prevent them accessing VAT, journals and nominals. Kashguard really should have been called KashFront since that's all it is and I could write an Access application to mimic it in short space of time... What Kashflow is good at is :- 1) It's on the Web 2) It's cheap 3) It has a fuller API than most 4) It has many third-party apps giving my customer flexibility 5) I get all the backup copies each week in Sage format 6) They listen and fix things quick - I've had many suggestions added 7) Let me know when Sage get's anywhere near this anytime in the next 10 years. Cheers (and no need to reply ;-)) Just lost an hour of my life reading the Kashflow/KashGuard thread from Accman. As usual, people with too little to do and too much to say. My sympathies for the abuse you had to take. FWIW, I chose to join the Kashflow partner program and, yes, I put multi-user permission access at my top need, coming from a 30 year IT career in multi-user commercial systems. Since I own and control my customer’s access which I sub-let, I set the passwords (auto-generated complex strings) and can prevent them accessing VAT, journals and nominals. Kashguard really should have been called KashFront since that’s all it is and I could write an Access application to mimic it in short space of time… What Kashflow is good at is :-
1) It’s on the Web
2) It’s cheap
3) It has a fuller API than most
4) It has many third-party apps giving my customer flexibility
5) I get all the backup copies each week in Sage format
6) They listen and fix things quick – I’ve had many suggestions added
7) Let me know when Sage get’s anywhere near this anytime in the next 10 years.
Cheers (and no need to reply ;-) )

]]> By: KashGuard goes live! | KashGuard http://www.cloudave.com/1731/nibbling-around-the-edges-kashguard-for-kashflow/#comment-2186 KashGuard goes live! | KashGuard Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:30:42 +0000 http://www.cloudave.com/link/nibbling-around-the-edges-kashguard-for-kashflow#comment-2186 [..] You can head over to Cloud Avenuewhere they have released an article about the new service. [..] [..] You can head over to Cloud Avenuewhere they have released an article about the new service. [..]

]]> By: Euroasia http://www.cloudave.com/1731/nibbling-around-the-edges-kashguard-for-kashflow/#comment-2185 Euroasia Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:23:00 +0000 http://www.cloudave.com/link/nibbling-around-the-edges-kashguard-for-kashflow#comment-2185 Xero needs to get on sorting out user permissions fast. At the moment, it's a real pain with high level management not being able to give full access to staff and having to be real hands on with approving invoices... Xero needs to get on sorting out user permissions fast. At the moment, it’s a real pain with high level management not being able to give full access to staff and having to be real hands on with approving invoices…

]]> By: Kashflow’s security nightmare | AccMan http://www.cloudave.com/1731/nibbling-around-the-edges-kashguard-for-kashflow/#comment-2184 Kashflow’s security nightmare | AccMan Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:37:40 +0000 http://www.cloudave.com/link/nibbling-around-the-edges-kashguard-for-kashflow#comment-2184 [..] I read a piece at CloudAve that stunned meto the point where I had to read it several times, rub my eyes, swig a cup of tea and then lie down. This is what CloudAve is saying: [..] [..] I read a piece at CloudAve that stunned meto the point where I had to read it several times, rub my eyes, swig a cup of tea and then lie down. This is what CloudAve is saying: [..]

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