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Director, OpenShift Strategy at Red Hat. Founder of Rishidot Research, a research community focused on services world. His focus is on Platform Services, Infrastructure and the role of Open Source in the services era. Krish has been writing @ CloudAve from its inception and had also been part of GigaOm Pro Analyst Group. The opinions expressed here are his own and are neither representative of his employer, Red Hat, nor CloudAve, nor its sponsors.

6 responses to “Magnolia Effect – Should We Trust The Clouds?”

  1. Ma.Gnolia Data Loss, What Have We Learned? | CloudAve

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  2. Ma.Gnolia Data Loss – Is Your Data Safe? | Zoli’s Blog

    [..] Update: also read Krish’s post @ ClouDave:Magnolia Effect – Should We Trust The Clouds? [..]

  3. jkgibbs

    I don’t think this is really an issue of whether or not to trust 3rd parties to handle data. That is absurd. This whole “cloud computing” thing has existed ever since the advent of the internet, with hosting, email, etc. You simply can’t do away with that stuff.

    What it boils down do is your choice of third party vendor. Obviously, Magnolia didn’t have proper backup protocols. They messed up. Just like a traditional marketing or advertising agency may send out 1,000 versions of an ad with a typo. It’s the same thing.

    This has been going on for years, in once sense or another. I say that this is how 3rd party vendors will make or break themselves. Keep messing up like Magnolia, and your competition will steal your business.

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    [..] For the most part, though, the outrage over the outages and downtimes suffered in cloud computing are overblown. Even when they last for hours, there are few cases where complete data loss has occurred (e.g. Google Docs comes back up, but your data store is wiped clean)…well,unless you count Ma.gnolia. [..]

  5. Ture Sventon

    Please! Do your home work before making any assumptions. Magnolia was never a cloud service, not even a fancy acronyme like saas. It was a couple of Mac OS-X servers. Nothing more.
    Ref:
    http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/02/19/magnolia-data-is-gone-for-good/

  6. krishnan

    I suggest you read the post carefully to know what we are talking about. We are not saying Magnolia was on clouds. We are ONLY highlighting the dangers with respect to keeping the data on third party locations (which is the case with respect to clouds).