Salesforce.com’s India Plans

Nov 26 2008 11:49:00 AM Posted By : Krishnan Subramanian
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Salesforce.com is planning to invade Indian market. According to a report in the Industry Standard, Doug Farber, Vice President of Salesforce’s Asia Pacific operations, told the media that they are planning to focus on some select cities like Hyderabad, Bangalore, Gurgaon and Mumbai. They are hoping to slowly create awareness about cloud computing in India. The biggest drawback usually quoted against SaaS or Cloud adaption in India is the unreliable power and internet infrastructure. However, Mr. Farber is confident that Salesforce can overcome this using many different approaches

Bandwidth is a problem in India and everyone is aware of that. So, how will a technology like such which is dependent on bandwidth survive in India? Farber said "Yes bandwidth is a problem in India. But we have found out ways to work around it. For example, one of the things that we have done is something called offline PDA. A person is connected through his iphone or laptop in which the data is stored and synchronized as and when the device gets the connection back and on. So, there are mechanisms to work around such problems."

On top of the above mentioned solution, Salesforce can take comfort in the fact that India’s mobile infrastructure is fairly reliable and they have a decent mobile data network. Like Mr. Farber, I also don’t think the broadband infrastructure is going to be the biggest obstacle on their cloud computing plans. However, they will face major hindrances in places they don’t anticipate. My argument below may not hold true for medium to big companies in the country but it definitely applies to the small business segment.

  • I have spoken to several people in the small and medium business segments in India, including some in Pharma related business, about implementing CRM solutions. An unusually high 80% of them loathe the idea of CRM. This is due to the mess created by the marketing teams of homegrown CRM systems in the past. The way they marketed the expensive legacy CRM systems have left a real bad taste among the business owners in the small and medium (at least, some of them) business segments. Salesforce.com and other SaaS based companies have their work cut out in making small business owners understand the power of CRM applications and then convince them to buy it. The trend is slowly changing. We are seeing more and more business owners showing interest in CRM solutions like SugarCRM or vTiger in the recent years. But it is going to take some time before CRM becomes mainstream among small businesses in India.
  • If Salesforce.com is serious about capturing the small business market in India, they need to drastically cut their prices. They cannot capture the market with the levels of pricing they have in US. In fact, there are few other CRM apps that are better priced than Salesforce.com. Knowing the psyche of Indian small business owners, it is going to take a lot of persuasion to bring them into the Salesforce.com kitty.

But I like the fact that Salesforce is planning to take a crack at the untapped Indian market. I hope that they succeed in popularizing cloud computing in a country where broadband adoption is still dismal while mobile has been a runaway success. In fact, SaaS/Cloud Computing is better suited for India than the traditional software solutions. It will help Indian businesses, hampered by unreliable power and broadband infrastructure, to compete well in this global economy. Check out my two part series on Cloud Computing and Developing Countries here and here.

PS: My analysis above is entirely based on my personal experience in the country during the past 2-3 years. If you have experienced anything opposite, I would love to hear about it. Please share it in the comments section below.

And Next to Attack Salesforce is....

Nov 05 2008 04:00:00 AM Posted By : Ben Kepes
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I reported a couple of weeks ago about the aggressive stance salesboom is taking in order to acquire Salesforce.com customers.

Hot on the heels of that comes Netsuite's Renewforce program. Renewforce seeks to migrate SFA customers to Netsuite's own product line and is guaranteeing;

  • A 50% cost saving (including service and support) when compared to Salesforce
  • Increased functionality (including cross-selling and up-selling automation)
  • 100 hours of professional services to handle the migration

More and more we're seeing downward pressure on SaaS vendors - there is a cyclical effect going on here. When Salesforce first bought SaaS to mainstream business users, the major play was that their product would disrupt the incumbent offerings. Much of this disruption was going to come about as a result of the move from CAPEX to OPEX and the lower TCO of the product.

We're now seeing the initial SaaS vendors begin to feel the pressure from a new generation of vendors - all believing they can do it cheaper than SFDC.

It's a little comical that, simultaneously with consumer applications scrambling to find ways to gain a monetization path, business applications are being pressured on all sides by downward pricing pressure.

I wonder how far this pressure will cause prices to drop and who is best placed to trim the fat sufficiently to come out on top?

Salesbook and Faceforce Doing the Samba

Nov 03 2008 01:05:23 PM Posted By : Ben Kepes
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I kind of think those two names have quite a nice ring to them.....

Anyway, I've always been somewhat dubious about the true utility of Facebook. Having said that 120 million users create their own utility - merely from the momentum of the crowd.

Given my doubt it was interesting to see the announcement at Dreamforce by none other than Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg, that Salesforce and Facebook are joining together to allow force.com applications to leverage Facebook's social graph.

This video gives a nice little example of using Salesforce's ideas application that allows companies (most notably Dell and Starbucks) to leverage the crowd to gain ideas for potential products or services.

It's a great move for both companies - it allows Salesforce to offer it's customers the power of true virality, while it allows Facebook to tap into where the dollars really are - business.

Salesforce.com will announce a new initiative, called Force.com Sites, today at the end of the keynote by Marc Benioff, CEO, at the Dreamforce User Conference. They plan to extend their Force.com platform and compete with other platform as a service offerings like Google App Engine.

Till now, the Force.com platform served business users to develop apps that can be used internally within an organization. They have to tap into Force.com APIs from outside platforms to offer customer facing web apps. With the new initiative, it becomes easy for customers to allow the internet users to "interact" with their data.

Salesforce.com, which is expected to surpass 1 billion in revenues this year, is under severe pressure due to their falling stock prices. Plus, they are also facing tremendous pressure to diversify their offerings. Opening up their platform in this way is a smart move on their side to diversify their business. They can easily tap into their existing customer base to promote this new offering. Unlike Google App Engine, which has been used to develop any kind of cloud application, this platform will be more focussed around business tools offered by Salesforce. It could also enhance the existing ecosystem around the Force.com platform by allowing the vendors to offer web facing services from their Force.com applications. This helps the ecosystem flourish and, in turn, ensures growth to Salesforce.com business.

Salesforce plans to make money by charging the customers for the pageviews. The new platform will be available for developers as a preview version after the announcement today. The final rollout is expected to be sometime in 2009. With predictions about SaaS market doubling by 2012, Salesforce is attempting to position themselves to be a big force with their new Force.com initiative.

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All's Fair in Love, War and Business

Oct 14 2008 04:00:00 AM Posted By : Ben Kepes
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They say that all is fair in love and war - and most people extend that saying through to business. It was interesting to receive an email the other day from CRM vendor salesboom. A quick disclaimer before I launch into this post - I'm not intending to review the salesboom offering - that's been done before. Rather I'll look at the way salesboom aggressively hunts down customers.

Salesboom.com is a CRM vendor that isn't shy about announcing where it sees its competition. Salesboom came to my attention just after the announcement earlier this year that salesforce would be supporting Google docs. The unreasonablemen, looking at it as they do from a "real-world for enterprise" perspective, posted about salesboom, congratulating them on their integrations with Outlook, a product that in his words can be considered;

a true enterprise app...

Now I don't want to get into an argument about the merits, or otherwise, of Outlook. I do think that Outlook as an installed application will be disrupted, I haven't given up on the idea that Microsoft might disrupt Outlook themselves. Suffice it to say that salesboom were chasing customers by integrating with the tools that those customers are using today, rather than second guessing what they'll be using tomorrow.

Anyway, the email I received the other day had salesboom once again looking down the barrel (both barrels to be honest) at salesforce;

Salesforce.com's stock is at a 52 week low and it has been downgraded to sell from buy, we like to think that we are playing a part in this decline...

I have to say it's a little opportunistic to claim the credit for the stock price - there are perhaps one or two things happening in the economy that might be playing a part in that situation ;-) nonetheless it's a ballsy move, designed to cast a bit of a shadow over the "big-boy" of SaaS, salesforce.

Salesboom are also upping the ante with their migration offer.

salesforce customers receive (with some conditions);

  • a USD5000 credit
  • free data migration
  • free training

Putting the credit to the side for the minute - the second two parts of the offer have always struck me as being smart. Software is sticky - plain and simple. Migration is both a cost, but more importantly a hassle, for businesses - the actual migration is a pain, retraining is a pain and integration is a pain. Salesboom are providing some real solutions to this pain with their offer.

The salesboom "magic migration button" which promises to quickly and painlessly migrate data, workflow, customizations and other business implementations from salesforce, Siebel, ACT! and Netsuite is a great marketing feature - people like a simple depiction of a process - "one click migration" is as simple as it comes.  As salesboom says;

[the] tried and true migration process alleviates the fear of a lengthy migration process or the possibility of losing data and business requirements while also ensuring a swift ROI due to the minimal transition period

I've always been a proponent of SaaS vendors going heavy on the service - in my opinion a reasonable sized investment up front - in terms of migration and initial support, gives a vendor a better than average chance at converting that sale and, more importantly, keeping that customer on-board. It's an oft-repeated theme - service is the killer app for SaaS.

It's always interesting watching fast followers in a market - traditional thinking has it that "me to" applications have difficulty gaining momentum in a market with a strong incumbent already operating. SaaS changes this a little bit, and SaaS with a major emphasis on the second "S" helps even more.

Add to this the fact that there are those who consider that even salesforce is due to be disrupted, and that their model of creating their own infrastructure isn't ideal. I posted about outsourced hosting previously and, while I'd have to admit that salesforce is in a different situation (leveraging their infrastructure as they do to create a second revenue stream from PaaS) - nimble players such as salesboom could create a chink n the armor of their larger slower moving competitors.

S+S/SaaS - So What's in a Name?

Oct 02 2008 04:00:00 AM Posted By : Ben Kepes
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Steve Clayton from Microsoft is a great guy with one of the blogs I religiously follow (and I follow a lot of RSS feeds). I actually quite like his somewhat defensive stance - it must be hard working for a company that, from appearances, is reviled by all the cool kids in town, and to be at the receiving end of all those "I'm a Mac" ads must get a little tiresome. He's not blindly pro Microsoft - and can admit when MS competitors have good products offerings.

He does however have to toe the party line, hell hath no fury like Steve Ballmer spurned, and I'm sure even Ray Ozzie has a bite and a bark. Sometimes this party line just get's a little too much.

Steve posted the other day about Software+Services, Microsoft's play on SaaS saying that;

I’m sat on this plane to a guy using an iPod. Is he connecting to iTunes to stream his music direct to his device? No, he has no connectivity hence has downloaded it from that services (or ripped from CD) so he can use it “offline”. When he lands and connects back up to iTunes it’ll help him store his play data out on the Internet or connect and get some new music. That is Software plus Services in action. So is Salesforce.com Offline Edition and Google Gears

It’s taking the best of services and combining with the best of local software to deliver the experience the user wants – the power of choice. At some point in the future we may consume all of our software across the Internet but I’m willing to bet against it – there is much to be gained from using the best of both worlds. Services than run in the “cloud” of the Internet and software than runs locally on a phone, games box, PC, Mac, iPod, television or all manner of other devices.

That’s it in a nutshell. Software plus Services is a Microsoft term that explains an industry trend and whilst I don’t expect others, not least our competitors, to use that term they’re doing Software plus Services. The reach of Internet services combined with the power of local software. It’s as simple as that.

Which is all well and good... except that everyone out there with a SaaS product that has offline functionality - be they Google, Salesforce, Zoho or whomever calls their product SaaS. Pretty much everyone agrees that offline access will be a vital part of all SaaS apps going forwards. Even Steve in his own post admits that what Microsoft offers (in terms of the offline functionality) is much the same as what everyone else does. Which is kind of interesting when seen in light of an older post of his where he put a great emphasis on differentiating S+S from SaaS. 

But everyone else calls it SaaS Steve - sure S+S is a Microsoft term but is there any need for yet another term? - why oh why does Microsoft insist on creating a worldwide industry standard followed by one industry player - it doesn't do MS any good, it confuses the marketplace and it's just argumentative.