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Director, OpenShift Strategy at Red Hat. Founder of Rishidot Research, a research community focused on services world. His focus is on Platform Services, Infrastructure and the role of Open Source in the services era. Krish has been writing @ CloudAve from its inception and had also been part of GigaOm Pro Analyst Group. The opinions expressed here are his own and are neither representative of his employer, Red Hat, nor CloudAve, nor its sponsors.

6 responses to “PaaS Is The Future Of Cloud Services: Tier3 Adds .NET Support To CloudFoundry By Forking It”

  1. Chris Haddad

    Hi Krishan, I would like to hear more details about how Iron Foundry is “tightly integrated with the .NET Framework”. The current website documentation does not describe how the project is integrated with run-time .NET framework constructs (e.g. application session management, data caching, or message queues). The source code structure doesn’t seem to offer many pointers. By deep integration, I would have at least expected package references to .NET 4.0 libraries. I do see minimal integration with CloudFoundry deploy-time functions (i.e. PushApplication), but I don’t see integration with application-level message monitoring. Maybe I missed references to basic application server integration.

    It will take some time to dig in and determine integration points with Windows AppFabric ( ), Windows Communication Foundation, and Windows Workflow Foundation. Simply ASP.NET is 2007 technology, and Microsoft developers are moving well past building simple ASP.NET applications.

  2. saasmania

    Hi Krishnan,
    I follow you a long time ago I also know you are writing posts about the new services paas. Maybe, you could be interested in Velneo ( Velneo Is a spanish product that you can use eith r in-house or through paas service.
    The paas service works similar to Windows Azure. The server is controlled by the programmer (user) and you can deploy many applications in your server. Of course, The paas service is multienancy that means it permits to create a server immediatly and the service upgrades the version product if necessary without any user action.
    If you would like to know more about Velneo , let me know. I will also know which is my relation with Velneo

  3. Jared Wray

    There are a couple integration points with .NET, the first is on the VS IDE add-in that allows for the creating/pushing/polling of a .NET web app. The next is that we have rewritten the DEA (orchestration layer) such that it is ASP.Net aware and can take any web app and deployed on a backend IIS instance. We currently leverage the messaging, caching and queuing that is supported in Cloud Foundry. So as VMware adds additional services and components to Cloud Foundry, we will be supporting those by default.

    While I agree ASP.NET and SQL is “2007” type technology it is the starting point and the foundation for web applications for .NET developers. Iron Foundry will be working on bringing other integration points such as session state management, caching, and other services. Bringing these services that support the .NET application will be the next steps in this project.

    We will be working to publish a road map on this project of items that we are working on and love to hear your ideas. The Team is dedicated to .NET on Cloud Foundry work not only for the foundation applications but even the complex ones.

  4. Chris Haddad

    Thanks for the information Jared. I appreciate the clarification. I’ll grep the code to better understand the plug-points with .NET. Kudos to Tier 3 for open source transparency (and the Apache 2 license). From your comments, seems like the solution is more CloudFoundry-centric than Windows AppFabric and .NET-centric.

    Always good to have an alternative to Windows AppFabric, which Microsoft has been attempting to converge with Azure functionality for the last three years. Is supporting an open source CLR and Mono on your roadmap? Be interesting if the solution can run ASP.NET applications without paying the Microsoft tax.