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  1. Sameer
    January 12, 2012

    Hi Krishnan,
    Today read your 2 yr old article
    http://www.cloudave.com/1595/8kmiles-outsourcing-as-a-service/
    Doesn’t seem like gone big in two years.

    They are not able to attract too many clients.
    Is this because people still don’t have conviction in cloud computing???

    Regards
    Sameer

  2. Chris Johnson
    January 14, 2012

    Hi Krishnan,

    I wanted to correct you point about APIs. There are in fact LOADS of APIs for Exchange Online, Lync Online and SharePoint Online.

    In your example “If I want to build an app to manipulate the docs stored in Office 365, I can’t.” This is plain and simple wrong. SharePoint Online has a number of APIs you can use to work with content such as Web Services and the Client Side Object Model (XML/JSON). There are 3rd party apps that integrate with 365 using these today like Colligo’s products for PCs and iPads (http://www.colligo.com/) (i’m not affiliated, but i like their products)

    Exchange Online supports the majority of the APIs available to on-prem customers too. EAS and Web Services for example.

    Although i think some of your other point are good, i have some comments on a couple:

    – Simplicity. I agree things could be easier to understand. But 365 does A LOT more than Google Apps very basic functionality. So its no surprise its slightly more complex.

    – Scale. Time will tell i guess.

    – Mobile. I don’t really agree with you on this one. You are trying to compair apples to oranges a little on this i think. Office 365 has really good mobile support. There are loads of apps that connect to its various services. On iOS for example, you can use Lync Mobile for Voice, Colligo Briefcase for access to SharePoint documents and the built in Mail/Calendar apps for Exchange Online. They work offline (except voice of course) & I very rarely need to dive into a browser. In fact i hate doing anything in a browser, its plain painful IMHO even with modern HTML5 type apps.

    – Social. I guess it depends what you call Social. Public social stuff … sure you have a point. Enterprise Social? I disagree.

    Anyway … i started out just wanting to point out your misunderstanding on the API side of things … and ended up with a much longer post than intended.

    Thanks,

    -Chris.

    • Krishnan Subramanian
      January 14, 2012

      Thanks Chris. I completely accept your arguments on the API side. I tried to get some info from the public sites and I couldn’t find anything other than some APIs for Exchange and Lync. If you are a developer you might know better. Even then, the vibrant ecosystem around Office 365 is missing. Unless, large number of third party apps integrate and work seamlessly with Office 365, I wouldn’t be convinced. I do agree that they are starting up and ecosystem takes time. Thatz why I am still hoping that they will meet the trends in modern day cloud apps.

      Re: Mobile, I think you haven’t got my point. I am talking about supporting various platforms by Microsoft for the core functionality of Office 365 products. It is zero except for OneNote on iOS. Some third party might have apps cooked up using the APIs you mentioned but it doesn’t constitute as proper mobile support for Office 365.

      As far social, I am talking about both. And whatever they call as Social inside Sharepoint doesn’t match up to social in modern day apps.

  3. Chris Johnson
    January 14, 2012

    Thanks Krishnan,

    For SP APIs a good starting spot is: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/sharepoint/gg153540.aspx

    I agree the ecosystem isn’t there yet. But it is growing and more and more apps are integrating like Colligo, SharePlus, Filamente to name a couple. They are out there, but just aren’t organized in an easy to consume list.

    On Mobile, i hope MS doesnt spend time improving the browser based experience. My vote is firmly in rich applications, native to the device. Call me a nay sayer, but i just don’t see a future in browser based apps anymore.

    -Chris.

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